Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

02/19/2008 09:00 AM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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+= SB 185 SEX OFFENDER/CHILD KIDNAPPER REGISTRATION TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 185(STA) Out of Committee
+= SB 202 PROHIBIT STATE SPENDING FOR REAL ID ACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 202 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        SB 185-SEX OFFENDER/CHILD KIDNAPPER REGISTRATION                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE announced the consideration of SB 185.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:06:28 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BUNDE  moved to adopt  the committee substitute  (CS) for                                                               
SB 185,  labeled, 25-LS0985\M, Luckhaupt, as  a working document.                                                               
Hearing no objection, Version M was before the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BILL WIELECHOWSKI,  Alaska  State  Legislature, said  he                                                               
tried  to  incorporate the  concerns  of  the committee  and  the                                                               
Department  of Public  Safety (DPS)  to  create this  compromise.                                                               
Section  1 makes  it  a crime  for sexual  offenders  to fail  to                                                               
register  their internet  address. Section  2 has  some clean  up                                                               
language,  and it  also provides  for registering  email, instant                                                               
messaging  addresses, or  other internet  identifiers. Section  3                                                               
requires registration  within one day  of getting an  address. He                                                               
noted  the high  level  of compliance  with  the sexual  offender                                                               
registry. Section  4 reflects  the concerns  of the  committee by                                                               
making the  list publicly  available, but a  person will  need to                                                               
type in  the particular address to  determine if it belongs  to a                                                               
registered sex offender. The language  looks loose because of the                                                               
term "may". There  is a federal program starting, and  it will be                                                               
free and available  to everyone and every state.  If that program                                                               
does not  come online,  and this  bill requires  DPS to  sign on,                                                               
there will be significant costs to  create a new one. That is why                                                               
the language is a  little loose, but it is the  intent of the DPS                                                               
to have a database up and running.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:09:54 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI  said  the  next part  is  in  response  to                                                               
Senator Stevens, and  it will make this  information available to                                                               
internet service providers  and security firms to  assist them in                                                               
identifying  and preventing  communications  with registered  sex                                                               
offenders. It  allows the department  to do that.  The department                                                               
has  the  intent  of  getting  the program  running  as  soon  as                                                               
possible, but  staff was  concerned about  finances and  wants to                                                               
wait for  the federal software.  So he decided Alaska  will begin                                                               
registering  everyone  by  January  2009,  and  as  sex  offender                                                               
reports  become  due, they  will  have  to register  their  email                                                               
addresses.  The  worst  sex  offenders   will  have  to  register                                                               
quarterly,  and  the  lesser offenders  could  possibly  register                                                               
later. That decision was made to keep costs down.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:58 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS asked for a definition of instant messaging.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WIELECHOWSKI said  it was  his intent  to cover  instant                                                               
messaging addresses, and he defined the term.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked if it was the same as a text message.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said  cell phones are not  addressed in this                                                               
legislation. It  would come  down to  what an  electronic address                                                               
is.  Internet  communication   identifiers  include  MySpace  and                                                               
Facebook,  and their  use by  sexual  predators has  been a  huge                                                               
concern  of those  companies.  Commissioner  Walt Monegan  thinks                                                               
there are 16,000 sexual predators using the internet in Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:14:55 AM                                                                                                                    
KATHY  MONFREDA, Chief,  Criminal Records,  Department of  Public                                                               
Safety (DPS), Anchorage, said  the identifiers include networking                                                               
sites like MySpace, gaming sites,  and chat rooms. Text messaging                                                               
will not be included because cell phones aren't on the internet.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if terms  are explicit enough to cover those                                                               
people who masquerade on MySpace and Facebook.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said there may not  be a way to prevent someone from                                                               
using a false identifier or pretending they are someone else.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH   said  predators  masquerade  as   teenagers  on                                                               
MySpace. "Would not  registering that alias … on  the internet be                                                               
a violation of this law?" Does the alter ego get registered?                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:18:04 AM                                                                                                                    
MS. MONFREDA said those addresses must be reported.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE asked  if other  states are  experimenting with  a                                                               
type  of  bracelet that  would  send  a  signal  if a  person  is                                                               
interfacing with the internet.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said she doesn't know if that is possible.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said, considering  the sex offense recidivism rate,                                                               
she hopes technology can keep these people away from children.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said she has never heard of such.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said so we are  just trying to keep  people honest                                                               
by registering.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said he understands  electronic addresses, and he                                                               
understands  MySpace-type addresses,  but  he  doesn't know  what                                                               
instant messages are.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said  it allows people to chat back  and forth while                                                               
they are doing other things on their computers.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:20:23 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR STEVENS asked if that is the same as a chat room.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said a chat room is where many people communicate.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  MCGUIRE explained  that he  can instant  message with  his                                                               
Blackberry and  send real-time instant  messages. Chat  rooms are                                                               
different, and she assumed they are covered under the bill.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI said yes, as an internet identifier.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS said someone could  have hundreds of identifiers.                                                               
Is it unenforceable?                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  said these  people have been  convicted of  a sex                                                               
crime  and can  be restricted.  While some  people may  avoid the                                                               
law, it will give another hook to catch them with.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:23:01 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE  spoke of  a conversation  with Ms.  Monfreda about                                                               
another bill  requiring sex offenders  to register with  the DMV.                                                               
"And I think your point was,  keep doing these little things, but                                                               
it's not the 30,000-foot view."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MONFREDA said  her  concern was  that DMV  and  DPS are  two                                                               
separate departments.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR MCGUIRE said  Ms. Monfreda had made the point  that DPS has                                                               
been doing a lot of work  getting people to register, and what it                                                               
needed is more resources, not necessarily more policies.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA agreed. There is  already 90 percent compliance with                                                               
the law, but tracking people is  very labor intensive. There is a                                                               
shortage  of police  officers statewide.  It is  hard to  get law                                                               
enforcement  to go  to a  reported  address, but  they are  still                                                               
doing  it.  She  provides  a  list  each  month  of  noncompliant                                                               
offenders to all of law enforcement, including the troopers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:25:21 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR MCGUIRE  said these  things help  highlight the  issue, but                                                               
the legislature  needs to keep an  eye on the resources.  "We can                                                               
make a lot of great policies,  but if the resources are not there                                                               
to carry them through..."                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. MONFREDA said if an offender  goes to DMV and is turned away,                                                               
then they are still not registered.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
RODNEY DIAL,  Lieutenant, Alaska State Troopers,  Ketchikan, said                                                               
he supports  SB 185  and likes the  changes. The  registrant list                                                               
should not be readily available  for exchange. Investigators know                                                               
that most of  the illegal information is  spread through offender                                                               
emails.  The bill  provides  another  tool, and  it  can be  used                                                               
during  an  investigation of  another  issue.  An examination  of                                                               
computers may uncover the failure to register.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:11 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS moved  the CS  of SB  185, labeled  25-LS0985\M,                                                               
from  committee  with  individual  recommendations  and  attached                                                               
fiscal note(s).  There being no  objection, CSSB  185(STA) passed                                                               
out of the Senate State Affairs Committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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